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Charlie Wiederhold
01-21-06, 11:39 PM
This coming Sunday (Jan 29th) is the 10th anniversary of Duke 3D shareware. I'm holding a trivia game in the GiS forums (http://www.gamingisstupid.com/forums/) in celebration covering questions about Duke 3D history, as well as the online community around Duke 3D through the years. I'll be offering some prizes to the people that get the most questions right. The prizes will all be signed by people relevant to the item. These include: DNF, Prey (PC), Max Payne (PC), Duke Atomic, Shadow Warrior, and a couple original Duke 3D Mouse Pads. The DNF and Prey items clearly will be sent when the titles are actually complete, and the people who win those two will also get something else that will be sent with the items already out. If for some reason I can't get something signed in a reasonable manner (such as Max Payne or Prey), I'll replace it with something else.

I'm warning you though; it will require some pretty hardcore knowledge of the old school Duke 3D days. :) The first person to post the right answer in the thread will get credit for the question, and some questions will be scored higher than others. I'm not sure how many questions there will be total yet. Clearly you are free to look things up (how could you be stopped?) but the advantage goes to people who know information already.

I spent January 29th, 1996 sitting in the University of Texas UGL library waiting for the demo to be released so I could put up a mirror on my webpage (WiederWeb). It was a memorable day, and one that wound up changing my life. Duke 3D is what led me towards becoming a game developer instead of a corporate programmer. :)

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I finished reading Fingerprints of the Gods (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0517887290/qid=1137909953/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-5133305-8857560?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) (please read my commentary on this below) and Three Billion New Capitalists (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465062814/sr=1-1/qid=1137910016/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5133305-8857560?%5Fencoding=UTF8), as well as Book #1 of The Complete Calvin and Hobbes (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0740748475/qid=1137910042/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-5133305-8857560?s=books&v=glance&n=283155). I'm on to Book #2 of C&H, The Creature from Jekyll Island (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0912986212/qid=1137910094/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-5133305-8857560?s=books&v=glance&n=283155), and The Shield of Achilles (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375412921/104-5133305-8857560?v=glance&n=283155). I only wish my enjoyment of history coupled with current events had started earlier, but it took some life experiences to fully appreciate the value in regards to me as an individual in the first place. I'm glad I haven't reached the point in my life where I'm simply focused on maintaining my current perspectives, and will continue working to ensure it never comes. Challenging what you think you know is one of the most fulfilling endeavors I feel can be taken... provided you aren't afraid to be wrong and willing to change.

Over the last year I’ve completely lost the ability to listen to Democrats (http://americablog.blogspot.com/) or Republicans (http://www.redstate.com/) (and the media/internet extensions thereof)... as well as anyone who identifies themselves as either. Both sides are so stuck in their constant barrage that nobody is actually paying attention to the issues affecting their daily activities and future opportunities. The population in the middle is kept transfixed on "scandals" that ultimately don't matter to their lives. The only commentary I can read without the knot in my stomach growing tighter comes from those who refuse to attach themselves to ANY party or movement at all, and instead just wish to focus on each issue independently. Unfortunately, these are few and far between and thus there is no choice but to read both sides and attempt to find reality somewhere in the middle.

The only honest way of participating in a democratic system is being capable of voting for anyone.

It is beyond irrational for a person with no political career to "be" a Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green, Reform, or any other party member. These parties are entities in and of themselves and will do what is necessary for the success of the Party. It is impossible for the party to adhere to your values at all times, and over the years the values of these parties change. Since most people have no political career (and thus in modern times have no need to band together for coordination and funding purposes), there is NO reason to "be" anything. Each time they go vote, it should be an entirely new process and the candidates should be judged based upon what they say. Veterans should be judged based on what they have done as well.

The party of a candidate should not affect a voter. Ever.

Unfortunately, most people are too busy to do enough research to understand the issues or the candidate’s abilities vs. rhetoric. Therefore they vote for "The Party", lazily discarding their responsibility in the process and hoping it is "close enough".

There is so much turmoil (http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/petrov011606pv.html) bubbling under the surface (http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article339928.ece) these days, especially in the financial world (http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/schiff/2006/0113.html). Other than momentary flashes it is drowned out by the Battle of Pettysburg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff) being fought in the media and over the water cooler (http://cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/2000/schindler_WMD_092200.htm). I just hope we can finish this game before another 1970's period kicks in (and if all we get is a repeat of the 1970's we'll be lucky). Video games are highly sensitive to disposable income, and it would be an awful kick in the nuts to finish it, have it be everything we want, with only a small portion of the audience with enough extra income to enjoy it.

I need to start keeping a notebook or voice recorder around, as I have a hard time transferring my thoughts and observations into written form. I have a great deal of respect for the talented writers who can contemplate a subject matter and find the way to express the results of their contemplations for others to read.

Charlie Wiederhold
01-22-06, 12:38 AM
BTW, I've added 75 to the vB code support so you can insert the <hr width=##%> line seperations to posts.

Micki!
01-22-06, 02:48 AM
...

I always had a hard time in understanding politics... :o
Doesn't make it better that i just turned 18 this week... Now i believe i'll HAVE to focus more on such stuff...

P.S. About the Duke3D history quiz thing... That sounds really cool...
And i know i won't win... :D:(

Asmodeusz
01-22-06, 09:47 AM
Nowadays, Politics are more focused on bashing oponents than promoting it's own values. I really can't understand, how easily people are decieved by stupid, and I mean really stupid propaganda (i.e. elections in Poland last year - the party who won showed a vid of a empty refrigerator claiming it is the future of Polish people if the other party wins). Pathetic really.

Always, when I think about Politics at some point I think of democracy. What a waste. Democracy forgot one thing: People are stupid, or in other words. Humans are not intelligent. Individuals are. I won't even go into the stupidity of communism. Anyway politics are a topic in which I really can't come with anything constructive. Only thing that comes to mind is a microcomunities concept, where in a country, anyone may be part of a choosen microcomunity. But that's utopia.

Theseus314
01-23-06, 02:40 PM
Ah, wiederweb. Back in the day eh?

Charlie Wiederhold
01-25-06, 01:02 AM
Micki! I would be suprised if you cared much about politics at all up to this point. You've still got some years where the entire point is just to have fun and not give a damn, I fully suggest you continue to do so. :)

Always, when I think about Politics at some point I think of democracy. What a waste. Democracy forgot one thing: People are stupid, or in other words. Humans are not intelligent. Individuals are.

This is the reason for Republics instead of a straight up democracy. The intent is to prevent any one group from being able to dominate another via the Tyranny of the Majority. Unfortunately people aren't as seperated by time and distance anymore due to communication improvements, making it so Republics can't operate like they used to without significant modifications to the current constitutions. Considering how old most of the primary Republics/Democracies are now, it's no suprise that they are starting to buckle onder the weight. Most of them were written before corporations, globalization, etc. and thus simply aren't equipped to provide the appropriate balance and protection of rights. Much like how the constitutions of the late 1700's and early 1800's were drastic improvements over the prior forms of governments, adjusted to the issues primarily facing people of the day.

Although it was based upon wrong guidelines, this is part of the reason why only landowners were granted the ability to vote. Landowners were generally educated and had a stake in the stability and strength of the government (or the limitations of the government). I wish something similar were in place today, where you had to demonstrate a basic understanding of government functions before you could vote. Unfortunately no matter what system you put in place it can be easily usurped to get the results a certain group wants.

Ah, wiederweb. Back in the day eh?

Waaaaay back in the day. Back when I was as young as Micki! ;)

Asmodeusz
01-25-06, 05:16 AM
Unfortunately, the "democracy" thing is so spread right now in western countries, that if criteria were made, for pointing who may vote, and who may not - well it could lead to revolution. The problem is, if you want a good criterium that works, you will probably exclude 80% of the society. In other words the dumb part. But they would feel discriminated and taken away from the public life of the country. And we could have a bloodbath in a few years.

SyntaxN
01-25-06, 06:48 AM
Yep, Political Parties are More Stupid than Gaming.
My proof for that was the election in germany last year, some discussions between the parties, their idea´s for relationships and stuff like that were quite ridiculous and sometimes really amusing ;)
But in the end I always had this *those kids should lead germany in the future?* thought in my mind, and that can get scary imo.

@Duke3d quiz, I´m no way an "oldschool" person, I never spent time playing games before the end of 2002... :( (but Mafia drove me into the whole thing :D)

Micki!
01-25-06, 09:26 AM
Waaaaay back in the day. Back when I was as young as Micki! ;)

Oh yes, i'm young... i just turned 18... And i hope there won't be any difficulties (sp) with my life because i turned adult...:eek:

Actually, only good things have happened untill now...
- I'm getting a new PC soon
- I got a raise from my school (we get payed by working there), so i'll be getting double payout soon...:D (again to save money for my "Monster-PC")
- Appearantly, i'm able to vote and stuff now... But i don't care for such stuff...
- MONEY!!! (gotta love it, so i'm mentioning it twice)

Hmm, can't think of more good things... But it's a good thing for sure...
Only bad thing, is that i'm attracted to younger girls (in any case, i WANT them to be younger than me... i won't accept being together with anyone as old, or older than me...:nipple:)

pjohnsonjr1984
01-26-06, 08:18 PM
Charlie,

The problem with every person in Political office is playing politcal party agenda. They'll stab their own in the back if they oppose the collective view, they'll give hand jobs to get their legislation passed (Some say that's how Hillary got where she is... :eek:) and others just want to dole out the sensless tomfoolery that will leave all of with our jaws dropped and asking, "Why in the hell did he open his mouth?!"

Democrats are hurting like a guy getting kicked swiftly in the gonads, Republicans have political problems just like (De)Lay's potato chips, they just have more than one... Democrats are trying to sink President Bush and the Republicans like a desperate person playing BattleShip and down to their last Cruiser. Republican's are trying to get rid of crap while Democrats shoot themselves in the foot. Both running like Chickens with their heads cut off...

Politcally, I stand on the fence, mainly because I want what's best for the country and myself, and I'll lean which way will guarentee that. But as of late I seemed to have racked myself on the political fence. I've always hated the stupid political BS of Asses/Elephants. I think someone would have a heart attack if someone on Political Hill would divulge the entire truth of a matter.

But my complaints with the 2-party system aside, There's one thing I hate more... Celebrities, Biased Media Outlets, and big-mouthed people who seemed to have a view on politics that they feel everyone should have... Younger generations in particular are hand-fed by the :nipple: tube and will believe anything that's shoveled down their throats. If a popular figure starts saying that his views is this, someone's going to accept that as their views...This younger generation lets others make their mind up for them...

I don't know how much room I have to talk, I'm only 21. But I've always made it a prominant part to read as many views on a current issue as I can, because somewhere between the strands is the truth... Hopefully.

That's it for my rant, but I understand totally where you're coming from :)

redchurch
02-01-06, 05:46 PM
quote: "I need to start keeping a notebook or voice recorder around, as I have a hard time transferring my thoughts and observations into written form. I have a great deal of respect for the talented writers who can contemplate a subject matter and find the way to express the results of their contemplations for others to read."

Seem to have done just fine. By writing, thy hath written!

Just realized this was here. Fancy php and stuff!

Micki!
02-02-06, 02:19 PM
Hey Redchurch...
Welcome to the GIS forums.. How come your post count isn't showing any numbers..? :confused:

Kristian Joensen
02-02-06, 03:23 PM
Maybe because he wasn't logged-on when he made that comment ?

Parkar
02-03-06, 01:51 AM
If he would not have been logged on you would not see his name.

Asmodeusz 1
02-03-06, 04:18 AM
Not really. You can type it in. :)

Asmodeusz
02-03-06, 04:21 AM
I had to use Asmodeusz 1 because Asmodeusz was already in use. But redchurch posted before registering the nick, so he could be redchurch. :)

Micki!
02-03-06, 06:45 AM
Ahh, makes sense then...

Asmodeusz
02-03-06, 07:02 AM
Yeah, it's good cause it encourages people to register, so their nicks aren't stolen or counterfeited :D

Micki!
02-03-06, 12:42 PM
Yeah, imagine if anyone would take my beloved name's "!" away from me..! :(

. . .

But on the other hand, i don't think the chances for 2 Micki!'s to appear on the internet is big...
I'm unique..! \o/ :D

Asmodeusz
02-03-06, 01:59 PM
I never actually met an Asmodeusz or Asmodeus, but sometimes I found that this nick is already taken (usually on really big forums or societies +100 000).
In one case the name was reserved but not actually used :( <- and it surely it's not the only case as people often reserve topics of nicks: i.e. Game personalities names: Duke, Gordon, Sam Fisher, Sub-Zero etc. In my case the fallen archangels kind of names: Abaddon, Asmodeusz, Asmodeus, Azazel, Belzeebub, Lucifer, Adirael, Ariel, Fadahel (ok, I could go all day).

One time I also found that all nicknames related to evil were banned lol (i.e. *evil* *kill* *demon* etc)

Micki!
02-04-06, 03:31 AM
Haha, appearantly 3DR and charlie accept evil it seems... :D

Charlie Wiederhold
02-05-06, 03:37 AM
Haha, appearantly 3DR and charlie accept evil it seems... :D

I fully encourage the balanced battle between good and evil.

Movies and games wouldn't be nearly as entertaining without it. :P

My most common online nickname these days is JennyPaka15SWF. That's generally available, but not always allowed. I'll often modify it for the game, such as in World of Warcraft it was "Jhennay Paka".

Seem to have done just fine. By writing, thy hath written!

Just realized this was here. Fancy php and stuff!

Sure, but that's just scratching the tip of the iceburg of what I actually wish to express via writing. I find it challenging to balance the time between *doing* and writing. I start writing and that sends me down a research path, or give me an idea for a project and that will pull me away from the writing itself until said project or research is complete.

Such as writing the code for the main page. I could have used someone already made by someone else, but the satisfaction of doing it and learning as I did it was more important to me than what I was actually going to write on it. :)